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Speaking Dauntless with Phoenix Labs – Selecting Epic Video games Retailer, Including Crossplay and Tons Extra

Monster Hunter World could sit on the throne of cooperative monster searching video games, however that doesn’t imply it ought to relaxation on the proverbial laurels.

Extra competitors is coming in that style. God Eater three is due on PlayStation Four and PC this week, and Dauntless by Phoenix Labs will increase on many extra platforms later this 12 months, beginning with PlayStation 4, Xbox One and Epic Video games Retailer in April and ending with Nintendo Change, iOS and Android units within the latter a part of 2019.

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In the present day we’re interviewing Phoenix Labs to get an replace on their formidable roadmap, initially revealed at The Sport Awards 2018 occasion, which incorporates the introduction of full-blown cross-platform play between all the aforementioned platforms.

Truthful warning: it’s an extended learn, as that is the transcript of properly over half an hour of a Skype chat with CEO and Co-Founder Jesse Houston, Senior Sport Designer & Producer Chris Fox and PR supervisor Andy Burt. It does, nonetheless, cowl just about any side of Dauntless, each current and future. Get pleasure from!

I needed to start with the suggestions you bought from the group after Season One ended. 

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Chris: Positive. Season One was, we considered it as a really profitable first foray into the Hunt Go and giving extra content material and extra objectives to gamers. Usually, the group suggestions we had been taking a look at was centered on the size of the Hunt Go in addition to the stability of how gamers can progress. We’re taking that suggestions into Season Two; we’re making some changes in Season Two that concentrate on how gamers can progress. And we’re going to be adjusting the size; the categories and magnificence of content material, we felt that the gamers had been fairly proud of. So we’re going to see extra of the identical varieties of content material being offered for the subsequent season.

In addition to the console launch which I need to go deeper into later, what sort of content material and/or new options do you might have deliberate for Dauntless all through this 12 months, beginning with the subsequent couple of updates?

Jesse: We’re not solely going to proceed to push new Behemoths occasions in addition to occasion based mostly content material the place the sport world will change. We’re additionally taking a look at new types of content material, new methods of experiencing Dauntless, exploring islands and that form of stuff. Chris can provide some extra particulars there. However at a excessive degree, as we proceed to progress and perceive what our gamers like, we’re persevering with to construct extra form of particular content material for them.

instance of that is our Scorchstone Hellion. The Hellion was one of many fan favourite behemoths. Of us had been form of asking for one more form of more durable iteration of him, so just a few months in the past we bought began on that effort after which simply delivered it. So, you understand, we glance to the group for inspiration pretty frequently. After which take a look at the place we really feel like there’s gonna be plenty of impression after which construct in the direction of that.

Yeah, that is smart after all. Are you contemplating any tougher content material for a bigger group of gamers, like raids?

Jesse: Yeah, you understand, we’ve undoubtedly talked about it. Within the rapid brief time period, we’re not taking a look at raid model content material. I’m eager to get extra people working and form of have the occasion content material have extra that means earlier than we begin entering into the raid degree stuff. Chris, I don’t know if you wish to add to that in any respect?

Chris: Positive. Certainly one of our objectives for the primary a part of this 12 months is offering extra strategic and tactical fight decisions to gamers and we’re taking a look at a pair completely different options which I’m not gonna explicitly spoil proper now, however we’re additionally going to be updating our roadmap to speak about that. One of many objectives there’s to construct programs and improve our present programs to supply our design staff extra alternatives to take current content material, make a tougher model of that and supply rewards which can be commeasured with that problem. We’re additionally going to be taking a look at, as I stated, some fight revamps and I do know one of many questions in the neighborhood was round weapon customization and what would we be taking a look at subsequent. We’re really taking a look at all weapons proper now by way of offering gamers with extra fight choices. That’s issues that I’d need to take into the battle but in addition my second to second decisions that I’m making throughout fight. I went a bit of bit wider with my reply there, however we undoubtedly need to present tougher content material paired with extra cool and attention-grabbing methods and issues for gamers to do throughout fight.

What a couple of model new weapon or weapons. Is that one thing which may occur later this 12 months?

Chris: We have now a pair actually cool concepts however we’ve not put something formally on the plan. A part of the work we’re doing proper now as we refactor a few of the fight, we need to be certain we ship that to the gamers, get plenty of suggestions and form of let it settle. After which when we’ve all of the adjustments rolled out form of work out what the subsequent greatest alternative is for the subsequent weapon. We might put one in every of our new concepts ahead immediately. However it could not match up with that different adjustments that we’re making. So we form of need to push out new adjustments to current weapons. Take a second to have interaction the group, get their suggestions, mirror on it after which work out what the subsequent alternative is.

Andy: I really feel like a few of the adjustments we’re making to current weapons are such a stark distinction to how they had been first launched that if people who find themselves perhaps aware of sure weapons they are going to discover new and attention-grabbing methods to make the most of them.

Jesse: We need to add much more interactivity to the weapons, those which can be at the moment out. Whereas there’s plenty of good concepts and we’ve bought some stuff cooking, you understand, we need to guarantee that we’re balancing that in opposition to including depth to the weapons that we’ve and that’s form of the place the fight staff is concentrated proper now.

Okay. We’ve talked about fight associated actions that are the primary aim within the sport, however what about social actions, perhaps even participant housing? It’s one thing that different MMO-like video games have applied over time.

Chris: We haven’t talked explicitly about housing. What’s attention-grabbing about that concept although is it’s rooted in a want for gamers to need to get collectively and have an area that they’ll get. And the factor that we’re wanting ahead to this 12 months in some unspecified time in the future is revamping the guild system and the way we deal with that and the way gamers can work collectively for frequent objectives. That’s about all of the element that I can share proper now. However we undoubtedly need to double down on the interactivity between gamers and form of the teams that type themselves.

You touched upon the guild system now briefly, however is there any debate contained in the staff concerning the alternative of introducing some aggressive parts to Dauntless in some unspecified time in the future or do you need to hold it strictly cooperative in the interim.

Chris: Once I break this query down,  a very powerful factor I pull out of a want for competitors is that gamers have a way of measuring their success, not solely in opposition to their very own historic efficiency however in opposition to the efficiency of others. And that’s one thing that we need to proceed to discover is how gamers can mirror on their success after which even be rewarded for that. Competitors, once you say that or aggressive, typically folks assume PVP. We don’t have any present plans of participant versus participant instantly, like no Slayer can’t combat one other slayer.

However we’ve been speaking about how one can greatest present to a participant their very own efficiency and that of the folks which can be on their staff. We are able to prolong it to guilds and form of different social teams.

Thanks. And naturally, the large announcement you made lately was concerning the upcoming console and cellular launch. I needed to ask you first if you’re doing all of those ports in-house, internally, or are you counting on some companions.

Jesse: Yeah, proper now we’re centered internally on the ports. We have now a reasonably sizable employees. portion of the staff is engaged on that stuff.

And you’ve got two studios proper now, one in Vancouver and one other in San Mateo.

Jesse: Yeah. We don’t actually consider them that approach. I imply technically we’ve two bodily areas after which we’ve a bunch of parents who work remotely as properly. We’re all centered instantly on Dauntless.

So I’m taking a look at them from Vancouver and we form of think about the San Mateo workplace simply down the corridor. It’s a three-hour flight down the corridor but it surely’s simply down the corridor.

Chris: We have now form of an always-on digital camera we’ve an always-on digital camera. So every time we need to pop in it’s similar to wanting via a window to talk with our brethren within the North.

It is fairly frequent today among the many improvement groups. I needed to ask although, are you able to give us a ballpark of what number of builders you might have between each places of work proper now?

Jesse: So, Phoenix Labs completely is about 95 5 people at this time that work instantly for us. I believe one of the simplest ways to consider it’s there are a couple of hundred and fifty people contributing to Dauntless each day between outsourcing and internally. About 60 people work in Vancouver.

Okay. Do you intend to increase on that or simply hold it round this measurement?

Jesse: Yeah. From an growth perspective, we’re nonetheless rising. We take into consideration development by way of do we’ve the very best people to resolve the issues that we see. It’s a bit extra of a sophisticated reply than I believe we most likely have time for. However sure, we’re completely increasing nonetheless.

You understand we’ve bought I believe seven or eight open positions on the web site proper now, for instance.

Chris: We’re not increasing only for growth’s sake.

Jesse: Precisely.

Properly that’s that’s good to listen to. And naturally in Vancouver there’s a vibrant group of builders, proper?


What are you able to inform us concerning the state of those PlayStation Four and Xbox One ports of Dauntless? How are they coming collectively to this point?

Jesse: I imply they’re fucking nice. I imply, I’ve at all times been an enormous controller fan and so, you understand, sitting on my desk is a construct that performs like a PC. It’s nice. It’s actually cool.

So that you’re nonetheless planning to hit April as a launch date.

Jesse: That’s the present plan.

Andy: And along with that clearly an enormous a part of our information announcement in December was coming with Dauntless to the Epic Sport Retailer in order that’ll be occurring in April as properly.

I needed to ask you about that as properly as a result of when Dauntless first got here out I seen it wasn’t on Steam. And naturally, now you’ll be on the Epic Video games Retailer. Are you enthusiastic about this chance?

Jesse: Oh, completely. We’ve been working with Epic for greater than six months now on their Video games Retailer. We had been really the primary group to enroll with them in any respect. We have now you understand we’ve just a few extra complexities than like say Hades or Ashen on condition that we’re an always-on free play massively multiplayer sport versus a extra conventional product.

And with that in thoughts, Epic has been an outstanding accomplice they actually imagine in. They share our imaginative and prescient for bringing nice video games to players in a approach that’s extremely shopper centered.

You understand, they had been the primary platform accomplice that we talked to that basically shared the imaginative and prescient that we had and truly have the identical excessive requirements of excellence by way of issues like customer support and the way they considered gamers you understand I don’t need to say something adverse about anybody else however you understand we had a very excessive bar. It’s what we labored on we weren’t on Steam largely as a result of we had a big bar customary of excellence that we felt that solely we might obtain it with our personal platform and Epic has confirmed time and again that they’ve been in a position to obtain that very same customary of excellence.

So that you assume they might make a big impression on the PC digital market.

Yeah, I imagine so. You understand there was some information that was launched lately from 200 completely different sport firms that had been surveyed during the last three years and greater than half of them imagine that Epic is form of one of many subsequent nice leap in the place platforms are going to go. I’m very assured. I’m clearly very assured, we’re coming to their platform, we’re selecting with our ft, proper?

And also you additionally talked about the One Dauntless cross-platform system. How is that going to work? Are you testing it already? What are you able to inform us?

We’re nonetheless working with first events, Microsoft and Sony and Nintendo, to form of get via all the technical ramifications of it however ideally how this performs out is that wherever you’re and wherever I’m on no matter console we occur to have, we’re in a position to play collectively and have a good time whether or not I’m on PC or x field or sure for initially after which Change and cellular later.

Proper. So you would be part of the identical occasion.

Yeah, completely. If you happen to play Dauntless at this time, we at the moment have six areas like North America, South America, Western Europe, Australia, Southeast Asia et cetera. And that stuff is all utterly invisible to the participant and One Dauntless like the subsequent part of the was evolution is including instruments to that very same combine. So it goes from wherever you’re you’ll be able to play collectively seamlessly to wherever you’re and no matter console you’re on.

However will or not it’s potential to disable crossplay, you understand, as an possibility? Some video games are doing it like Rocket League, Fortnite and shortly Sea of Thieves.

Matchmaking with gamers on different platforms needs to be a seamless expertise. Having a bigger pool of gamers will enhance the possibilities of discovering an excellent match rapidly. Having stated that, there could also be circumstances the place we permit a person to decide out of that have.

You’ve additionally stated that Dauntless is coming to cellular units and Nintendo Change, albeit a bit later. Is it going to be powerful to downsize the sport a bit maybe given the technical specs of those platforms? Are you assured will probably be the identical expertise?

Crucial element of that is that the expertise is shared throughout the place such as you really feel such as you’re enjoying the identical sport and we’ve actually constructed the sport with this imaginative and prescient in thoughts for the reason that starting, so we’re actually assured that it’s going to be nice. That’s not to say that it isn’t going to be a tough as hell factor for us to do. You understand, the technical challenges are excessive however I’m actually assured that the staff goes to have the ability to obtain this nice aim.

After all, the first problem with cellular is that it has its personal management methodology, so that you’re going to need to create a brand new interface as properly I believe.

Properly in lots of circumstances you understand for instance like many of the UI is we’ve made certain that they’ve been pretty contact compliant, to start with. Clearly, there’s going to be adjustments and also you’ve really most likely been seeing adjustments during the last three or 4 months getting rolled out each in graphical model and person expertise but in addition simply ensuring that every part is future proofed for after we need to begin getting within the contact interface.

After which the large alternative for us is fight. And I believe that that’s going to be a very attention-grabbing problem for the staff.

The large query I believe is whether or not these cellular customers who don’t use a paired controller, who select the default contact controls, could be on the identical degree of gamepad customers.

You understand our imaginative and prescient is that the diploma of complexity and talent continues to stay excessive and we’ve seen some nice examples like PUBG cellular and Fortnite. They’re actual deal, triple-A experiences with a bunch of cellular gamers who’re distinctive.

And so, you understand, in the event that they managed to form of determine it out with out having that compromise, I’m actually assured that we’re going to have the ability to do the identical.

Dauntless goes to be on the Epic Video games Retailer on PC, however Epic additionally stated they need to be on Android finally. Are you going to make use of your personal consumer or Google Play or Epic Video games Retailer on the subject of the Android platform?

The present considering is Google Play however, you understand, we’re nonetheless a good way away from being a actuality and so it’s most likely too early to say for certain.

So it’s truthful to anticipate to have to attend for the second half of 2019 for cellular and Change.

It’s a second half of the 12 months factor, we’re very a lot centered on Xbox One and PlayStation Four proper now. And I believe the thought course of is as that will get into certification and stay you understand we need to transfer our focus over to cellular and Change.

In the earlier Dauntless interview we revealed right here we additionally mentioned your adoption of the NVIDIA DLSS expertise. I needed to examine and see the way it’s coming collectively and when you’ve got any ETA on after we can anticipate it to be stay.

We’ve been working with NVIDIA on this for some time, they’ve been working with us to get the AI to learn to do it. Mainly a part of it’s they need to launch a driver model on the identical time that we launch a patch. And I believe we’re making an attempt to determine the schedule and all that stuff is feasible.

It’s coming although, it’s virtually on the map. Our graphics programmer has been working with NVIDIA and we’re like tremendous shut.

That’s cool. Are you continue to desirous about potential implementation for ray tracing or is that one thing you’re not trying to do?

We’re not taking a look at it proper now. Our lighting mannequin does the job that we would like it to proper now, whereas deep studying supersampling has given us plenty of additional efficiency. That’s our largest focus on condition that Dauntless is an motion fight sport and naturally you need all of the FPS so you will get. And with all of the console work that we’re doing proper now, whereas we’re a bunch of parents, we’re not an infinite variety of people. A part of the job is retaining centered on the issues which can be going to see essentially the most worth for essentially the most variety of people.

Certainly. You simply talked about the body charge, so I’ve to ask: is Dauntless going to be working at 30 or 60 FPS on PlayStation Four and Xbox One?

I don’t know. I imply the aim has at all times been 60, particularly the newer stuff. I don’t know the place what the body charge numbers are arising today however we’ll most likely have an replace so far as specifics on efficiency nearer to launch.

Okay. Any probability of Dauntless getting help for HDR shows?

HDR is one thing we’re investigating, however we don’t at the moment have any plans for implementation.

For current Dauntless gamers, what can they anticipate from the subsequent replace?

Chris: Past Season Two, we’re additionally making an attempt to get some new options up for April in order that we are able to guarantee that they’re into the sport and examined by the group earlier than we launch on console. So it’s going to be fairly a busy first quarter for us by way of new programs, new content material and anticipate the brand new season within the upcoming weeks.

All proper. And is the sport on consoles going to be the identical at launch – is there content material parity?

Jesse: Oh yeah yeah yeah. I imply to ensure that cross-play to work there needs to be parity.

Proper. So that you’re nonetheless planning to have crossplay on day one in April when Dauntless launches on consoles.

That’s the aim.

Thanks on your time.


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